Talk:Weekly Daily Giz Wiz Show Notes

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Looks nice. --Steveh 05:59, 14 January 2009 (PST)

Could we please paginate these show notes? Perhaps sort them by month or in groups of 50? We could still maintain a master "big" list, but this page has surpassed the 0.5 MB level, which is kind of absurd for a mostly-text web page. —listrophy ( t | c | Logs: bdpr ) 16:01, 18 January 2009 (PST)

  • Do they do this on Wikipedia? Do you have some examples how it should look like? BTW, could we add "Unreleased episodes" in reversed chronological order? It would look more coherent with "Released episodes"...Ludwik 02:36, 22 January 2009 (PST)
    • Done. I simply formated Leo's Notes and didn't think to put them in reverse order. Ve2dmn 04:39, 22 January 2009 (PST)
  • For Wikipedia guidelines on long pages, see : Wikipedia:Article_size and Wikipedia:Splitting. Ve2dmn 04:39, 22 January 2009 (PST)
    • How do you want to split the article? Maybe splitting it by year would be enough? We could make "Daily Giz Wiz Show Notes from 2006", "Daily Giz Wiz Show Notes from 2007", "Daily Giz Wiz Show Notes from 2008" articles, and leave current year under the main "Daily Giz Wiz Show Notes" article. Ludwik 04:48, 22 January 2009 (PST)
      • I was thinking of putting them in groups of 50 (10 weeks), as suggested earlier, or in groups of 100 (20 weeks), but a "Show Notes for a year" sounds much more clear. So I'd say +1 to the idea of "Daily Giz Wiz Show Notes form 2006" Splitting. Any other opinion? Ve2dmn 06:18, 22 January 2009 (PST)
        • I'm OK with whichever way you guys decide, but my recommendation would be groups of 100. My suggestion would be following the example on the Wikipedia Law & Order episode method, with a main page and several sub-pages. within the 100s pages, I like the reverse order concept. Danegolden 14:40, 22 January 2009 (PST)
          • I vote for 100 episodes per page, with the main page having links to each century page, as well as a link to a master "get 'em all" page. The "get 'em all" page, in my mind, would still be incredibly useful if you wanted to do a quick search on a particular product, but had no idea which group of episodes it would be on. Let me also indicate that this whole discussion would be pretty much moot if this MediaWiki installation was using Semantic MediaWiki (an extension/add-on to MediaWiki). Each episode could be tagged (via a bot, if necessary, for the huge backlog) with standard MediaWiki-like markup and a meta-database would be formed. All of a sudden, the wiki would know the semantics of all of the Daily Giz Wiz episodes. This would allow for simple sorting, searching, and pagination. It would also be useful for other shows. For example, you could ask the wiki "Give me all shows in which Alex Lindsay appears for 2008." —listrophy ( t | c | Logs: bdpr ) 15:39, 22 January 2009 (PST)
        • I will (obviously) execute whatever we'll decide, but I strongly vote for spiting by year. It seems Wikipedia always tries to find some clear existing divisions while spiting (in case of Law & Order - seasons). Splitting them every 100 episodes seems confusing and arbitrary. Coincidentally splitting by year is also easier to achieve in the bot software, but that is ultimately my problem. Any more opinions? Ludwik 17:12, 22 January 2009 (PST)
        • It looks like we've got a tie. Any more opinions? Ludwik 05:56, 30 January 2009 (PST)
        • I'm not sure which splitting method would be best. I was leaning towards splitting by year, but now I'm undecided. Either way, it will be easy to create a master list using transclusion. Someone should bring this up at the bulletin board. -- Imperator3733 (talk | contribs | sysop | Logs: bdpr) 06:48, 30 January 2009 (PST)
  • I implemented the split and provided a very basic new Daily Giz Wiz Show Notes page. I hope people will make improvements to it and make it more clear and visually pleasing. One important information: The bot will automatically create and update list for the current year, but it won't ever touch the main Daily Giz Wiz Show Notes page, so you can change it as much as you want. Ludwik 13:56, 21 April 2009 (PDT)